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DEMONSTRATION

DIFFERENT TYPES OF CASES

A lecture given on 27 September 1950A lecture given on 27 September 1950

This lecture has been assembled from notes taken during the lecture in 1950 and prepared for publication by the Hubbard Research Unit, an organisation formed by Ron to help him in expanding Dianetics through new publications and research. We have unfortunately been unable to locate any actual recording or full transcript of this lecture.

This chapter is reproduced from notes taken by a student on the course in 1950. No recording of this lecture has been found, and without the actual tape recording we have been unable to verify the accuracy of the notes. The same material appears in a more condensed form in the book “Notes on the Lectures”.

Reverie and StraightwireA Factor of Quantity

We are carrying through with Standard Procedure. You are not going to see me use anything but Standard Procedure; there has been no need to since last July. I found out that Standard Procedure is what produces the most rapid solution of the case.

In this lecture we are going to cover types of cases and we are also going to cover some more Standard Procedure. Standard Procedure is a pretty important subject.

Somebody was telling me that “one should know the fine points of Dianetics.”

As to types of cases, we might as well start with the punch-drunk fighter and the electric shock case in which the effect is more or less the same. In both types there are a tremendous number of late life engrams.

I said, “Yes? What are they?”

The nervous system will sustain a huge amount of punishment. The normal person ordinarily has several thousand engrams. It is often amusing when you start a case. He will say, “But I have never been unconscious in my life.” Then you find he has had 15 childhood illnesses, 12 anesthetics, and in the prenatal area received his daily dozen. And yet the person at the present date can state, “I have never been unconscious in my whole life”.

“Well, you know — mental telepathy, sensitivity to the case and so on.”

The main difference in cases is one of quantity. The case which has a great many late life engrams, such as a punch-drunk fighter, has a somewhat larger number of engrams than normal.

I never did find out what else he thought there was!

The first time I cleared up a fighter’s reactive mind, we had to pick up early fights, childhood griefs and basic-basic, and only then did late life engrams start to lift. (After getting basic-basic, you can start running almost anyplace; having the basic area cleared, the rest of the track is ready.) Fight after fight came, blow after blow. He had been hammered and punched in practically every place on his body. We even ran the crowd yelling, “Give us blood! Give us blood!” Then his manager used to escort him from the ring raving about everything he had done wrong. Pretty soon he didn’t know his right hand from his left. He was very confused.

With Step One, the inventory, and Step Two, you can solve the majority of the cases, and when you have control circuits you go into Step Three. When he stops moving, go to Step Three. There isn’t anything outside of that, that I have used.

After one fight he had lain unconscious for two hours with a terrific argument going on around him between the manager and his trainer, and both manager and trainer agreed he was a bum, and how much of a bum he was.

So, if any of this looks mysterious, I will try to keep it explained. In the case of your own auditing you will run into it.

The net result of all this was the finish of this fighter. He had come to us with the initial trouble that he was living in 1935 and it was then 1947. This slight discrepancy of dates caused worry to his family. He would make an announcement about the fight he was going to fight “tomorrow night,” and he had been doing it ever since 1935. He was locked up at that point on the track.

It may have looked odd in the last demonstrations that I knew there was a “control yourself,” and so forth. I knew this because I wasn’t getting answers from the file clerk; there was something between the file clerk and the “I.” When you ask the file clerk for information and you get no information or false information, you know there is probably a “control yourself.”

It was easy to go back and knock the holders out. Then I had to go into the basic area and knock out very early engrams. He could move earlier than 1935, but if he tried to go later, it was February 12 of the year 1935. He was held there in such a way that he could not come to present time. Nothing existed beyond that point, but things existed below it.

Or sometimes you will find that the answer comes by means of somebody holding up a playing card; the preclear tells you he sees this kind of answer when you ask “Yes or no?

The English language has a fantastic number of phrases which will accomplish such a thing.

Flash!” and then you ask him, “How did you get this reply?” “On a playing card,” or, “Oh, I get my flash reply very easily. A little model train goes by.”

It took about 28 hours before we could knock this material out. Engram after engram after engram — every blow had been recorded. Fighters often spend two-thirds of the time out on their feet, and that is all solid engram. The professional fighter’s career is fantastic for the number of hours of unconsciousness it contains, in addition to a good deal of physiological damage to the brain and such things.

Perhaps you don’t think to ask for this data and one day your preclear tells you, “You know, I am all upset.”

Electric shock cases are very similar. Both have to be worked in the same way. There is a tremendous quantity of content. You will undoubtedly have a lot to do with these if you follow Dianetics. Or you may run across cases such as one man who tested sockets with his finger. “It didn’t do me any harm; it didn’t do anything to me.” We found, though, that every time he had made a test he had gotten an engram. He had one phrase in an engram about its not bothering him: “Electric shocks never bother me.”

“What’s the matter?”

All of these cases are basically the same; that is, they have engrams in the basic area: basic-basic or birth — or perhaps, as has recently been found, an aberrative sperm and ovum series.l Normally, however, the earliest engram is one day after conception.

“Well, the ticker tape, you know, the ticker tape the file clerk answers on, well, it usually runs horizontally but suddenly it started running up and down and it upset me.”

The zygote is very easily injured. Every abdominal pressure affects it. However, an auditor should run the ovum-sperm series three or four days before conception. Although this hasn’t been checked objectively, cases respond much better if you get that series.

One preclear was getting his replies on a Los Angeles traffic signal. These are dub-in circuits.

The time up to before the first missed menstrual period has been checked objectively, because somebody else has this material too, but it is not easy to check conception objectively.

If suddenly there is a “room with a view” where there isn’t any view, it is a control circuit. If you are running some part of the track where there would be no view and this occurs, and the preclear is in his own valence, there is a control circuit. He is suddenly exteriorised and he is getting pictures — a control circuit has clipped in.

Conception is a specific moment and you are not quite sure when it arrives. However, until the time this data is checked objectively, the reality of it is strong.

At the beginning of the track there is one visio which is authentic: sometimes the preclear gets a spot of light. Nearly everybody gets one. Sooner or later you will spot this.

Restimulation of the sperm or ovum series makes the person very uncomfortable. In fact, restimulation of the sperm or ovum series once or twice can trigger a psychotic.

LRH: How many hours of auditing have you had?

Another point is to never ask the file clerk “Is this engram erased?” Never ask the file clerk about any condition of affairs. The file clerk never thinks; it just hands out data. In two cases auditors did that then just walked off and left it. Ordinarily this would have settled out in a few days, but the cases were interrupted.

PC: Twenty-two.

Out of the sperm and ovum the whole organism is made. The whole body develops from those two cells, and every cell contains any injury that occurred in that basic time, so a basic engram is contained in every cell in the body.

LRH: How many have you done?

The earlier on the track you find the engram, the more aberrative it is. The two reasons for this are that they have priority in terms of time, and the earlier one is more valid to the psyche than later ones. If an engram said “I hate men,” and a later engram said something different, the first phrase would be the one followed. What is contained in that one is known by the whole organism. If there is validity to the biological explanation, the whole organism would be permeated by the data in the basic engrams.

PC: Thirty-two, about.

So, be very careful to run out everything you come in contact with. You can actually have a preclear in much better shape if you restimulate a late life pain engram. But don’t do that either!

LRH: Okay. Have you been down in the basic area?

These rules are important:

PC: I haven’t. My preclear has been — once, that I know of. I was reasonably sure.

1. Don’t invalidate the preclear’s data.

LRH: Did you ever know any mean people?

2. Reduce everything you get your hands on.

PC: Yes.

You are going to find people who say they have no prenatals. This is one of the experiences of the game and is a very ordinary one. Such people will simply be lying there, out of contact with any pain. All very early engrams are more or less off the track. Ask the file clerk for one and you can get it. But often, even in a sonic case, the first words in the engram don’t come through. The person doesn’t get an immediate sonic reaction. He can be returned right in the middle and you can say, “Do you hear anything? Do you feel anything?” He answers, “No.”

LRH: Who?

Actually, the engram might be off to the side, not in the analytical line.

PC: Father.

The way you get data is as follows: “The file clerk will give us the engram necessary to resolve this case. The somatic strip will go to the beginning of the engram.”

LRH: How mean? (pause) What did he say? (pause) You might as well lie down. (pc lies down) Your father was pretty mean. Did he like people to obey him?

There might be a veil between the content of the engram and the analytical mind. The way you pull the veil away is to say, “When I count from one to five, the first phrase will flash into your mind.” The first words of it as given may be “Don’t let it go,” and the somatic turns on. If he is getting the impressions of words he will get the content, and then you can run whatever the engram is. But you do have to connect him up with it before you run it, and if you follow that procedure you can get prenatal.

PC: Sure.

Every case is basically the same, but the manifestations are widely different. At one time man classified psychotic states in a very ponderous way, and there were so many left over that the largest bin was the unclassified one. In Dianetics, by type of case we don’t mean such psychotic classifications. In Dianetics all classifications stem directly from manifestations of the engram. Out of this vast area we are interested in these four factors: whether the case moves, and whether he has sonic, pain shut-off, or dub-in.

LRH: How did he go about that?

If a person is stuck, he isn’t going to move on the time track. In the Handbook the editor deleted the quotes in one place from the word stuck, and there has been a misconception about being stuck in present time. A person cannot be stuck in present time. The engram might give him that illusion, but actually he is stuck in an engram, and it is necessary to touch that. To test if a person is moving on the track, you get an age flash by saying “How old are you?”

PC: Well,...

He says, “Forty-two.”

LRH: Did you ever have a doctor?

You say, “What is the first number that flashed in your mind?”

PC: No.

“Forty-two.”

LRH: He didn’t like doctors?

You say, “Well, was there any change there at all?” You might still have some sort of built-in circuit that gives the proper age. This has to be broken down. Very often a person will give the year before, like a person giving a change into a new year. He may say 22 and it’s really 23.

PC: No.

This is a built-in mechanism.

LRH: What did he say when he yelled?

You say, “How old are you?”

PC: Well, “All right, now. Get up!” That was early in the morning.

“Twenty-three.”

LRH: Have you ever been in the prenatal area? (pause) What did he used to say?

“What is your age?”

PC: Get up or I’ll come up there after you!

His circuit is tuned up to “How old are you?” and by throwing in “What’s your age?” it gives you what his age is.

LRH: Do you have much trouble moving on the track?

Next you say, “Give me a number.”

PC: Quite a bit.

“Seven.”

LRH: I’m not giving you any suggestions, but might not somebody be bounced into present time?

If a person gives you a number different than his proper age, he is stuck someplace on the time track.

PC: With my auditor, every time I started to say something, he’d say he was running the case.

“What is your age?”

LRH: Is he here tonight?

“Twenty-six.”

PC: (mutters) . . . it is not my design (mutters) . . . I have to respect his wishes in the matter.

“How old are you?”

LRH: Does he run your engrams in his own words? (pause) You are not to tell?

“Twenty-six.”

PC: Let’s put it this way:I get real eager. He doesn’t say anything and I realize he is keeping quiet. He doesn’t want to talk.

“Give me a number.”

LRH: Did he ever run any engrams out, sort of on the side? How about this?

“Twenty-six.”

PC: I would like to think he did.

This should indicate he is not stuck.

LRH: You don’t know?

But supposing it came out this way: “How old are you?”

PC: My impression was he was doing good. Late painful emotion, mostly.

“Twenty-seven.“

LRH: Any physical pain engrams?

“What is your age?”

PC: This cut on my lip. I can’t see it but I couldn’t feel anything.

“Twenty-seven.”

LRH: Who used to say “Control yourself”?

“Give me a number.”

PC: My mother.

“Three.”

LRH: How did she say it?

You would then say, “What happened to you when you were 3?” He might say, “Nothing — nothing at all.”

PC: Well, . . . (closes his eyes)

“Tell me, what happened to you?”

LRH: I don’t want you to go back. Open your eyes. This is Straightwire.

“Well, I had pneumonia.”

PC: (murmurs)

“What happened to you when you had pneumonia?”

LRH: She used to say you were like her mother?

“Oh, nothing, nothing.”

PC: Like grandmother.

You say, “Tell me, were you delirious?”

LRH: That is what she said. Was she nervous?

“Oh, no! Well, I pretty nearly died.”

PC: Not that I know of.

You can pick up many little bits of data this way. This method may give you the exact place where he is stuck.

LRH: Calm?

It is interesting that some people can travel up and down the track with one perceptic while the others are stuck. A person may do it by smell, such as one man who was stuck in a tonsillectomy but could smell right up and down the track. His sense of smell validated his data for him. If he couldn’t smell it, it wasn’t there.

PC: She used to misplace things. This would aggravate her husband.

It is interesting to take a person and give him this age procedure. You will catch people all over the place. You will even find them in operations. As a matter of fact, the girl that designed the book Dianetics is a good example. I asked her one day, “How old are you?”

LRH: What did she say?

“Twenty-eight.”

PC: I am getting this stuff secondhand.

“What’s your age?”

LRH: Did your mother ever say this?

“Fourteen.”

PC: She (mutters) . . . in the bathroom.

“What happened to you when you were 14?”

LRH: How did she say this?

“I had an automobile accident, I think. It wasn’t terribly important.”

PC: “You have thumbnails just like my mother’s.”

But she had been unconscious for four days. She had sonic recall, and one of the first phrases was “Keep her right here, I’ll be right back.” When she got out, she went right back. Her ear had been bothering her with a chronic somatic. She had been having trouble all along with it, but the next day after this talk she said, “Something very strange happened; my ear doesn’t hurt today.”

LRH: You like to be like your grandmother?

In such a way you should test your preclear If he is in present time, he will be able to go to last year and come back to present time. If he can’t, he is stuck. His age may be off, and even if it isn’t, you can give him this. You say, “Give me a yes or no answer: Hospital?”

PC: At that time, yes. Now, no.

“No.” He looks at you rather puzzled.

LRH: How are your perceptics?

“Mother?”

PC: Very bad sonic.

“Yes. What are you asking me?”

LRH: How old are you?

“Give me yes or no on the following: Doctor?”

PC: Twelve.

“No.”

LRH: What happened when you were twelve? (pause) You know; you can remember this.

“Nurse?”

PC: “Stop and think” — so I am stopping and thinking.

“Yes.”

LRH: What happened to

“Home?”

PC: (murmurs)

“Yes.”

LRH: Did you like your teacher? (pause) What happened to him? (pause) When did you get hurt?

“All right. When were you sick and attended by your mother and a nurse at home?” And you find he is at that point. With anybody who is stuck, give him this yes-and-no routine, and you can quite often get the exact spot he is stuck. A person can be stuck in five or ten places at once. I know a very brilliant physicist who could think only in concepts and had no recall. He couldn’t remember if he had used a toothbrush or a horseshoe nail that morning. He was in bad shape. His whole memory bank was unavailable to him. His mind was innately very bright, so he derived all his information instantly. But he couldn’t remember data, so he had to re-derive it every time he needed it!

PC: At seven.

Some of these facts have given people the idea that neurosis and brilliance are somehow connected, but this isn’t true; because after Dianetic processing in a case like that, the person has all the potential he had before, plus the material in the memory banks that was not available to him earlier.

LRH: Give me a yes or no flash: hospital?

An occluded case is liable to boil off. We had one case in particular where we would put him on the couch and say, “Shut your eyes,” and it was no use for the auditor to talk because the person would promptly pass out. He was in the middle of boil-off right away. He ran prenatal engrams and five or six others; he boiled for four or five hours and then started moving up the track. The auditor would say, “Give me some data. What are you contacting?” (You can kick people in the feet, gently, to keep them going.)

PC: Yes.

The preclear said, “Mumble, mumble . . .”

LRH: Doctor?

The auditor asked, “What are you contacting?”

PC: No.

“Airplanes . . . mumble, mumble . . . railroad station . . .”

LRH: Nurse?

“Do you see a railroad station? What do you see?” This went on for 25 hours, just that and no more, until at the end of that time he started moving.

PC: No.

A real boil-off is distinct. A person may hallucinate and dream in the middle of it, with mirage-like illusions. You then have boil-off combined with control circuits. One preclear would get winter scenes with beautiful scenery. Sometimes he would start to describe the scenery. That is boil-off.

LRH: Mother?

With one type of case, if you start anything, he just boils off and all you can do is let it boil.

PC: Yes.

Don’t get impatient. He is liable to swing into an engram at any time. Where there is unconsciousness, there is a somatic under it. He may experience no somatics and boil and boil.

LRH: Shock?

Still, there isn’t a single case that has not boiled off. One case was in one engram for five hours. Electric shock therapy will do that. But if it takes five hours, it takes five hours. Do it; don’t go off, and don’t try to bring in anything else. Sometimes it may take five minutes, sometimes half an hour. Sometimes the somatic will turn on and the person will run it off.

PC: Not much.

Unconsciousness comes over the top of the engram.

LRH: Delirious?

Another type runs all over the track with visio, sonic and so on — all dub-ins. Such a case has a lot of control circuits. He moves very easily on the track and you can run engrams, but you generally find this person does not have a somatic. A self-controlled person can run engrams but have no somatics. Give him Straightwire and knock out those control circuits. He has some engram phrase such as “I have to discipline myself,” “You have to behave yourself,” “You have to mind,” “You have to do as you are told.” If you ask such a person “Who is the most self-controlled person in your family?” usually he doesn’t know.

PC: Probably.

In one case there was a dear, innocent, sweet grandma, who was very charming and full of enough aberrative phrases to scare you to death, giving the case an ally with phrases that ran like this: “It all comes down to this,” so the person would go down there and stay there.

LRH: Somebody nice to you?

Another phrase was “The next thing you know, there is trouble,” so he would start something and then there would be trouble. Another was “The trouble with you is you are no good.” A form of punishment was “Now stay there until I say you can come out,” and he was put in the closet; but she had never said to come out and as a result he was all locked up. There were also phrases like “Control yourself” and “Don’t make a fool out of yourself; people will be looking.”

PC: Sometimes. I was about twelve.

In this particular case, out of the whole family this old lady was the one character who was aberrative in nearly everything she said, and you will find that a case growing up under such a person or in that environment has a terrific number of control circuits. They can “control themselves,” but the “I” isn’t doing it. Real self-control is accomplished by the “I,” but in these cases you get a sort of false auditor.

LRH: That’s right. What did the hospital look like?

The person starts to go into an engram and there is no somatic. He will go all over the bank, with a demon circuits taking over a portion of the analytical mind. The engram actually thinks for him. These people won’t do what you tell them to do; they won’t let the somatic go on.

PC: It was a red brick building.

They will feel you haven’t enough altitude to audit.

LRH: How did it look inside?

In reality, a person is more self-controlled with the control circuits out. The circuits actually interfere with the “I.”

PC: It smelled funny.

Sometimes while you are running someone they will come in one day and say, “I was running through this engram today.”

LRH: How does it smell? Take a sniff.

You say, “You were what?”

PC: Not much here now.

“Oh, I went over it and I felt awfully sick, and I feel sick now.”

LRH: Did you ever smell it? Smell

Don’t try to get that engram. Leave it alone, because that engram is not ready to lift. It may be prenatal or late life, but that does not mean it is ready to erase. Consequently, if you try to get that engram, you are going to run into a hornets’ nest, with more and more restimulation.

PC: I don’t smell anything specifically.

What you want is to get the earliest moment of pain or unconsciousness, or grief charges, and to proceed from there. “Give us the engram next in line, the next earliest engram,” and so on.

LRH: Where was the bed? (pause) Where was the operating table?

“The file clerk will give us the next engram necessary to resolve this case.” Keep the file clerk forced earlier.

PC: (murmurs)

Sometimes you find people who have been taught to-do auto-selfhypnosis. This is gruesome!

LRH: How old are you?

Someone said, “Any time you wish, you can do so-and-so. Now, forget what I have just said to you.”

PC: Twelve — oh, that’s right! I had mumps. Let’s see — we went down to my aunt’s house, but I didn’t come down with mumps on the trip. I got them after we got to my aunt’s house.

This poor person will go around after that, and instead of letting his auditor do the auditing, he will try to run an incident by himself. He will start running engrams and will get hooked up on the track. He will say to himself, “Isn’t that a beautiful girl! Yes. Hmmmmm. Must be an engram, hmmmmm. I’ll say ‘I like beautiful women.”’ He repeats it. Then he doesn’t feel so good, so he starts saying “Doesn’t feel good.” That is your standard autocontrol case, and 30 percent of cases run have done it.

LRH: Who was nice?

There is a way to administer Straightwire to yourself, but it is not that way. You can go over things from present time and can get therapeutic value from doing that, but the whole case will bog if you start running engrams by yourself. You will find you will be stuck in eight or nine or twelve or maybe eighty or ninety engrams! So don’t let anybody autocontrol himself if you can help it. Such a person must have had a very “commanding personality” in the family, who was actually a very aberrated personality.

PC: My aunt.

Attack it with straight memory; let the preclear remember times when somebody said, “Control yourself.” But if you allow a preclear to run himself, he will ruin his case.

LRH: Did anybody say “I’ll take care of you”?

Then there is a dub-in case. You don’t find a person with dub-in who won’t do autocontrol.

PC: No. We went all the way from the northern part of Wisconsin to Georgia. (mutters) She said I would have to stay in bed.

People in psychoanalysis have been doing it and it has not been recognized. They have been lying down on the psychoanalytic couch, and the analyst has found he could get a lot of grief off but that it often latched up on something; and his patient would become neurotic some days.

LRH: What else?

What really happened was that the person was going up and down the track and he didn’t know what it was. When psychoanalysis has triggered this, it has often made the subject neurotic.

PC: I stayed there. She said it would be better.

Autocontrol subjects may be able to control themselves up and down the track, but they restimulate areas and don’t reduce the engrams. They are victimized by this mechanism.

LRH: Where was she standing?

Another one which will upset you is the “can’t believe it” case. Here is a bad case. He tells you he can’t believe he has any engrams.

PC: On a (mutters) . . . This was a sort of cabin.

Now, memory is the same process as remembering. In memory, maybe just one or two attention units go down the track into certain compartments, so to speak, and you may make contact with just a few units. A person remembering very deeply gets more and more into the incident, goes deeper and deeper, and thinks harder and harder and harder. If somebody says “Good evening” to him, he jumps. He has really returned to the incident. If his whole being goes down, he revivifies, and you can get it down to a point where a grown man will cry like a baby. Returning to 3 years of age, such a person may refuse to give any information, or he may just not want to tell you. So you can say to him, “Well, I’ll give you an all-day sucker.”

LRH: Just Straightwire.

“Okay,” he says, and then he will talk.

PC: She was on the porch.

I think of the attention units as little men with walkie-talkies switched on. They seem to be able to communicate. If an attention unit is down the track, it is in communication with present time.

LRH: How did you feel?

And there seems to be an attention unit on guard at the engram saying such things as “There is somebody here saying ‘Get out”’; and if the person is in a room, he will feel he just has to get out. Perhaps there was a certain kind of lamp in that incident and the lamp, or one like it, is seen in the room; it keys in that part of the engram which says “Get out,” so he leaves the room.

PC: We were up in the hills; used to go fishing and playing.

It depends on how many attention units go back along the track as to whether you call it remembering or recalling or reliving. With remembering there is a little returning; returning is a little part of reliving; and reliving is when you are all there.

LRH: Did it make you pretty cross?

Psychotics are always living in an engram under control circuits and demon circuitry. They are not in contact with reality, and that type of case is the “control circuitry” case.

PC: (murmurs)

In the “can’t believe it” case the person’s mind has been trying to go back and believe things but his data is all in monotone — everything has the same value. He can’t believe he is hungry; he can’t believe Africa is where it is. There is trouble with all his data. You ask him, “Do you believe in psychoanalysis? “

LRH: Where did she stand?

“No, of course not.”

PC: I don’t know.

“Why?”

LRH: Yes, you know. Where was she standing?

“You can’t believe it.”

PC: I would get up out of bed. That is what made her say this. “You have to go back to bed. You have to stay there.”

One manifestation is “I don’t believe I have any engrams.” Now, don’t force it down his throat; you have to tackle this case and find out what person in his past life was very skeptical. You are running a case who has no sense of reality. If his communication is bad, he is going to be hard to like or work with. It will be hard to establish affinity. That is a specific type of case.

LRH: Let's take a look at that.

Another type is the person who believes everything you tell him. His case is almost as serious as the other. He would even believe it if you told him “The moon is made of green cheese.” His sense of humor has been blocked out. He, too, has a monotone of values. This person is going to receive everything you say as a hypnotic suggestion, so be sure you put in a canceler. This is the credulous case. The old phrase “Believe me!” is pretty acute in this case.

PC: (laughs) Never got out of there yet!

These are probably the major types of cases. Besides these, there is the non-coitus case. There are people who don’t believe in sex. I want you to be aware of that as an auditor because you will need to be able to distinguish this type of case. You get all the way down the track into the basic area, and you may get a phrase such as “Go away, leave me alone, I don’t like you.”

LRH: Okay. Shut your eyes. Come to present time. Take a deep breath. Come to present time. How old are you?

Somebody in the person’s past life will have used these phrases, and this person will be bounced out of that area. With phrases like “Go away,” “Get out,” “Leave me alone,” he will be getting bounced all the way and he will bounce out of the prenatal area. If you get into the conception area, you may find that conception itself is full of bouncers.

PC: Twelve.

It may appear that the engram has vanished, but you check with the file clerk. “Give me yes or no, is there a bouncer here?”

LRH: What else did she say? Run it — ”Go back to bed.”

Use Dianetic terminology. That language was chosen because it is mostly non-aberrative. It was designed that way. We say somatic, for instance, instead of pain, because the word somatic is usually not in the bank. You ask the file clerk, “Bouncer?” “Yes.”

PC: “You go back to bed now. Go there and stay there.”

“When I count from one to five the phrase will flash in your mind. One-two-three-four-five (snap!).”

LRH: Again.

“Get away.” Roll it and go into the engram.

PC: “You go back to bed now. Go there and stay there.”

This is very important to know, because when you have a non-coitus chains in existence in a case, the possibility is that there is a series of bouncers and denyers in the basic area. This is true if you have a case running for hours and hours who is still not in the prenatal area. If that is so, start Straightwire.

LRH: Again.

It has been my experience that the non-coitus chain with phrases such as “Get away, I don’t like you” is the biggest sinner in throwing people out of the basic area. It makes misanthropic people.

PC: “You go back to bed now. Go there and stay there.”

So, these are the stellar cases that will give you the most trouble. I wish we could have all cases with wide-open perceptics all the way down the line running pianola, but unfortunately we do not. To free your cases just follow out Standard Procedure.

LRH: Again.

According to notes made by the original transcriber, the above lecture was followed by a break and then a demonstration session. Unfortunately we have been unable to locate either a tape recording or a transcript of that demonstration.

PC: “You go back to bed now. Go there and stay there.”

LRH: Again.

PC: “You go back to bed now. Go there and stay there.”

LRH: Again.

PC: “You go back to bed now. Go there and stay there.”

LRH: Again.

PC: “You go back to bed now. Go there and stay there.”

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: “You go back to bed now. Go there and stay there.”

LRH: What else did she say?

PC: “Stay there.”

LRH: Go over that again.

PC: “Stay there. Stay there. Stay there. Don’t let me catch you out of there. “

LRH: How does she look to you?

PC: (sighs)

LRH: Do you get a visio here?

PC: Yes. She is spare.

LRH: What is she saying to you?

PC: She is — she has come. The trouble is that she and my mother look somewhat alike.

They look alike. I just noticed it.

LRH: Who used to say that? Anybody say “I am like you, Virginia”?

PC: Used to call her Ginny.

LRH: Do you see your aunt now?

PC: Yes.

LRH: What is she saying to you? (pause) How do you feel?

PC: I feel like I am being badly treated. All the other kids are out playing. “You can get up pretty soon. In a couple of days you can get up.”

LRH: Let’s go over that.

PC: “You can get up pretty soon. In a couple of days you can get up. Go back to bed and stay there.”

LRH: (I am going to bring him up by degrees so he won’t have mumps in present time.) Is this the first time she said this to you?

PC: Once before.

LRH: Let’s pick up the first one.

PC: We get off the train, and after, I began to feel badly and she knew the others had mumps.

LRH: Continue.

PC: She said, “You will hare to go to bed.”

LRH: Where is she standing? (pause) What did she say?

PC: How do you feel?” (sighs)

LRH: What did she say again?

PC: How doyou feel?”

LRH: Again.

PC: How do you feel?”

LRH: Again.

PC: How do you feel?”

LRH: Again.

PC: How do you feel?”

LRH: Again.

PC: (softer)”How doyou feel?”

LRH: Again.

PC: How do you feel?”

LRH: What else did she say to you?

PC: Are you going to have the mumps?” She felt my head.

LRH: Can you get the tactile? Are you outside yourself?

PC: I am looking at this whole thing.

LRH: What did she say?

PC: She says . . .

LRH: (Toes.) Let’s get inside yourself and take a look at it. Let’s see if you can get inside yourself. How high does she come?

PC: An inch taller. “Don’t hit — ” Pain right here. (indicating)

LRH: Feel the pain?

PC: Yes.

LRH: Let’s go over it again. Get the sound of it? Let’s go over what your aunt says.

PC: She is standing there and looking us over (phone rings)

LRH: When I count from one to five a phrase will flash into your mind. One-twothree-four five (snap!). What does she say? (Take phones and doorbells, etc., out when they interrupt a session.)

PC: Four. But there were only three of us.

LRH: Let’s go over it.

PC: “Four. Four.” She had a small daughter.

LRH: What did she say about her?

PC: “Four of you now.”

LRH: What did she say?

PC: She wants to know how I feel. She says she wants to know how I feel, and she says she knows the other two have mumps or have had them. She is afraid her daughter will get it. We have to be quarantined.

LRH: (Lots of charge on this case. Grief. He exteriorises too easily.) Is she dead?

PC: No, she is not dead.

LRH: Who is dead?

PC: My father.

LRH: Did you ever touch that?

PC: Yes.

LRH: What happened?

PC: About four hours.

LRH: Who else is dead?

PC: My father, grandfather and grandmother.

LRH: What does your aunt say to you that makes you stay inside?

PC: Makes me stay inside? She says, “You will have to stay in bed. You just have to stay there.”

LRH: Let’s go over that again.

PC: “You will have to stay in bed. You just have to stay there. You will just have to stay there, that is all.”

LRH: Getting any perceptics?

PC: My jaws hurt, but not much. Partly from talking. I think I am thinking, “My jaws are all swelled up. “ I see it but can’t feel it.

LRH: Let’s just shift into yourself. Take a look at her from inside yourself. Can you get inside?

PC: Okay. “See, I am not in bed; I am out.”

LRH: All right. Where are you standing?

PC: I don’t know; just out of bed.

LRH: How does she look from where you are? (pause) Who used to say “I will have to keep an eye on you”?

PC: My mother used to say that.

LRH: What did she say?

PC: She used to say “Don’t go too far; I won’t be able to see you.”

LRH: What did she say again?

PC: Don t go too far away. “ That is why I didn’t leave home until twenty-seven.

LRH: Let’s take a look. You remember the specific moment when she said this?

PC: Not just . . .

LRH: (I am mixing reverie and Straightwire because twelve years equals present time to him.) Do you remember her saying it to you? Where is she standing?

PC: On the porch.

LRH: And what did she say?

PC: Don t go away too far; I won t be able to see you.”

LRH: Are you the oldest child?

PC: Yes.

LRH: Just remember the first time she said it.

PC: I wish I could but I can’t.

LRH: It goes that far?

PC: It goes pretty far. There was a little canal and I can picture her running to the canal.

She ran and jumped in, clothes and all, and pulled me out. I am not very big. She is probably about four feet higher. She is big, very big and she can move . . .

LRH: What is she saying as she runs?

PC: I don’t know.

LRH: You do too. When I count from one to five, a phrase will flash in your mind. One- two-three-four-five(snap!).

PC: (murmurs)

LRH: Come to the time you had the mumps, to the day after the one you were told you had to stay in bed.

PC: It’s just a little part.

LRH: Can you see your aunt there?

PC: Yes, I can see her.

LRH: Are you inside yourself?

PC: This time I can see her. She is bending over. She is interested in seeing how fast these mumps can disappear.

LRH: (Chipped out the lock on “Don’t go too far; stay where I can see you.”) All right.

What’s she doing?

PC: She is pretty busy.

LRH: (Apparently he isn’t so badly exteriorised.)

PC: Seems this is another time. I got sick the afternoon of the day I got there. I had hot milk. I remember this now.

LRH: What did she say to you? Lets see if you can go to the day you recovered.

PC: There is an ache in there. (indicating)

LRH: Let’s go to the moment you recovered. The somatic strip will go to the moment you are well.

PC: It is not very strong. It is Tuesday, if I know . . .

LRH: (Well, why not? He is stuck in it.) Come up to the moment you are running around.

PC: (mutters) . . . chipmunks. (mutters) . . . sitting on the step.

LRH: Can you see yourself?

PC: Yes.

LRH: Let’s get inside yourself.

PC: They are not very big; they are very quick.

LRH: How do you feel?

PC: They are — pleased.

LRH: Yes. You feel pleased looking at them? Are you inside yourself?

PC: No. I am scared, but up here on this couch.

LRH: You are? Let’s take a look at those chipmunks. What do they sound like? Take a look at them.

PC: Funny little noises. (makes noises imitating the chipmunks)

LRH: Time to go back home.

PC: No can do.

LRH: Sure you can.

PC: We catch one. (mutters) . . . puts it in a cage.

LRH: Doyou agree with that?

PC: I think it is real cute but I don’t like to see it in a cage. (mutters) . . . are bigger than I am.

LRH: Let’s go to the first time you go to a dance. (Maybe we have got him moving. Maybe not.)

PC: I am about twelve. Visiting . . . dance. . . song, “Collegiate.”

LRH: You are twelve?

PC: Twelve.

LRH: Go to the time you graduate from high school.

PC: I felt pretty good about that. I got a letter from the principal that says I am . . .

LRH: (I didn’t run out the mumps. I am trying to pull attention units out of the mumps by running triumphs.) Hold it in your hands. How does it read?

PC: I can see the other honor student who had equal scholastic standing with me.

LRH: Who says this to you?

PC: It is written down, signed by the vice-principal. It says (mutters) . . . As I say, the only other name is the name of this chap. I can see the printing but I can’t make it out.

LRH: When does somebody congratulate you and

PC: I think my parents.

LRH: What do they say?

PC: I can’t hear.

LRH: Sure. Let’s take a look.

PC: My mother is more proud than my father.

LRH: What does your mother say?

PC: The first words are “I knew you could do it, “ but I don’t think that is what she said.

LRH: Let’s take a look at it.

PC: I am looking at her some now.

LRH: All right. Let’s go to the moment when you get the letter.

PC: Let’s see.

LRH: Let’s go back to the moment you are reading the letter.

PC: I open the letter.

LRH: How does the paper sound?

PC: I pull it out.

LRH: How does it feel?

PC: I can see this letter.

LRH: How does it feel?

PC: It is folded like any ordinary business letter. Divided into six sections by the folds. I thought, “Why did he have to horn in on this?”

LRH: (The trick is to get all the perception in this triumph there up to the present.) Let’s get the feel of it. Are you standing up? Feel the weight on your feet. Pick up the letter.

PC: I am looking at this. It is very nice.

LRH: How does the day smell?

PC: It doesn’t smell.

LRH: Take a sniff of it.

PC: It looks good.

LRH: What’s the odor?

PC: No smell of the paper. I can smell the room. (mutters) . . . no matter how much you cleaned. It seems dusty.

LRH: Let’s feel your clothes.

PC: No clothes. But I had some on, obviously.

LRH: Feel it. Grab hold of the letter; smell the room. Feel how pleased you are.

PC: What the dickens is on the first line? “You and . . .”

LRH: Huh? Feel yourself standing there.

PC: No; I feel myself tying here.

LRH: Also feel yourself standing there.

PC: Oh!

LRH: Come on up to present time; forward to now.

PC: 1950.

LRH: Give me a date.

PC: ‘50.

LRH: Give me a number.

PC: Twelve.

LRH: (gestures) Did you have a headache when you had the mumps? Were you hit in the head when you were twelve?

PC: I don’t know.

LRH: Birth?

PC: Sure; got a headache now. How can I tell birth? I am the doctor.

LRH: Did your auditor ever run you through birth?

PC: Nope; not that I know. I am here.

LRH: How does this headache feel?

PC: It is beginning to go away but it is over this part of my head. (indicates)

LRH: Whatb the matter with present time? What would happen if you came to present time?

PC: I might tell something I don’t want people to know.

LRH: Do you have secrets?

PC: More than you can count.

LRH: Was your mother a secretive woman? (pause) Give me a man’s name.

PC: Her name is Ann. Also, she is living. She doesn’t like publicity. I am up here and that is too bad.

LRH: We will keep all your

PC: I want to get rid of it!

LRH: Anything you tell me up here on the stage I won’t tell a soul.

PC: (murmurs)

LRH: What was the first funeral you attended?

PC: Mike. Seventh grade.

LRH: (Stuck on track or not, I will try for painful emotion.) Who was with you?

PC: All the kids in my class.

LRH: How old were you?

PC: Thirteen.

LRH: How old?

PC: Thirteen.

LRH: Thirteen. Let’s take a look at this fellow.

PC: I see him. He is small. He is in his coffin.

LRH: Who says not to cry?

PC: Teacher; we could go and see him if we wouldn’t cry.

LRH: (I was going to say it may be because there is a charge of grief at twelve years.)

PC: My father says “Stop crying. “ Going to shoot cannon. I don’t want to hear it. “Stop crying!” Dragging me along. My brother isn’t scared but I am scared to death and I am crying like anything.

LRH: Are you watching yourself?

PC: Yes; yes.

LRH: I will tell you what I am going to do

PC: Don’t sound so discouraged, goddamn it!

LRH: Now, tell me, would you like to see a little new technique?

PC: Anything; you try it.

LRH: I want you to go back to a moment — you don’t have to tell me — but I want you to return to a moment when you kissed a girl you liked very, very much. You don’t have to tell me about it. This girl you like very, very much. You are standing up and you kiss her. Kiss her! Big kiss! Give her a real big kiss! Do you like this girl? Notice how she looks.

PC: (chuckles)

LRH: All right. The file clerk will now give us conception. (snap.t) The somatic strip will go to the beginning of conception. The first words will flash in your mind. One-two three-four-five (snap!).

PC: Oh, oh. No. No.”

LRH: What’s the whole phrase?

PC: No! No! No, no, no!”

LRH: What’s the phrase? The first phrase?

PC: No, no, no!”

LRH: Again. .

PC: No, no, no!”

LRH: Again.

PC: No, no, no!”

LRH: Again.

PC: No, no, no!”

LRH: Again.

PC: “No, no, no!”

LRH: Again.

PC: No, no, no!”

LRH: Again.

PC: (grief) “No, no, no!”

LRH: Again.

PC: Don’t you understand ? This is an operation!

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: No, no, no. No, no, no!”

LRH: Contact that.

PC: “No, no.” My auditor ran this. Nothing to do with conception.

LRH: Let’s return to the bouncer.

PC: “Go. Go.”

LRH: Is that the full bouncer?

PC: “Go. No. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go.”

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Go.”

LRH: What’s the matter?

PC: I am picking up the stuff you gave to her — “Go away. Don’t go away mad. Just go away.” This is over in (mutters) . . .

LRH: Early, earlier on the track. (Non-coitus conception?)

PC: I can’t even see who’s saying this and I can usually see.

LRH: What are they saying?

PC: “No. I don’t want to go on. I don’t want to go on.”

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “I don’t want to go on. I don’t want to go on. I don’t want to go on.”

LRH: Go over “No.”

PC: “No. No. No. No. No.” It hurts in here. (indicating)

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: The deuce I tell you! This is when I am suppressed (mutters). . .

LRH: Let’s go earlier, earlier. The somatic strip will go to the earliest part after conception.

PC: I feel a click; guess conception. “No! I don’t want . . .”

LRH: Let’s go over it again.

PC: “I don’t want this. Control yourself. Control yourself. You have got to learn to control yourself.”

LRH: Go earlier; earlier!

PC: “Control yourself. Control yourself.”

LRH: Earlier; earlier. How old are you?

PC: Five. No, that is not right! Thirty-six.

LRH: (He’s very badly stuck at twelve. I can’t get him out of it unless I either run grief or discover the twelve-year-old incident.) All right. How old are you?

PC: Twelve.

LRH: Who died when you were twelve? Who died?

PC: (pause)

LRH: A name will flash into your mind. One-two-three-four-five (snap!). Who died? Who died?

PC: Greene died.

LRH: Who died? You know who died. When I count from one to five a visio will flash before your face. One-two-three-four-five (snap!). What is it?

PC: The coffin where the boy was.

LRH: Who tells you not to cry? (pause) Go to work on “Don’t cry.”

PC: “Don’t cry. You don’t have to cry. Don’t cry. Don’t cry. Don’t cry.”

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: Don’t cry. Don’t cry. Don’t cry.”

LRH: (I guess it is this one.)

PC: Don’t cry. Mother will take care of you. “ Did she stop him from taking me? “Don’t cry.”

LRH: How old are you? (snap!)

PC: Thirty-six.

LRH: What’s your age? (snap!)

PC: Thirty-six.

LRH: Give me a number. (snap!)

PC: Twelve.

LRH: All right. What is she saying to you? (pause) Who’s dead? (pause) Go over the words “Don’t cry.”

PC: Don’t cry. Mother will take care of you.”

LRH: Again.

PC: Don’t cry. Mother will take care of you.”

LRH: Father?

PC: Yes. He is dead. Not then, though. At my father’s funeral I bawled, and this is very humiliating. Very humiliating. It is very humiliating.

LRH: (Sometimes you have to run shame or humiliation.)

PC: It is very humiliating. I am sitting on the bench and the back is hard. It is wood, and I am crying. This headache is coming back. A certain amount of being up here, understand ? It is very humiliating.

LRH: Who is talking to you?

PC: It’s me. I am saying it. It is very humiliating.

LRH: How is that headache?

PC: It is gone, but it

LRH: Bouncer?

PC: Get out. “ I get all set for it. “Get out.”

LRH: Repeat.

PC: Get out. Get out. Stinker.”

LRH: What’s he saying?

PC: I wanted to pop him, but I didn’t, see? He is in a chair. “You stinker.”

LRH: What is he saying?

PC: “You stinker. “ It is very humiliating. This applies to this incident, too. It is very humiliating.

LRH: Return to the first time you hear this word “very humiliating.” Repeat it.

PC: “Very humiliating. Very humiliating. Very humiliating.”

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “Very humiliating. Very humiliating.”

LRH: Return to the first time, the first time you hear it. Go over it again.

PC: I don’t see — ”Very humiliating.”

LRH: Let’s go over it.

PC: “It’s very humiliating.” (whimpering) “Very humiliating.”

LRH: (Toes; no visio.)

PC: I am small and I am listening and there are two very tall people talking. I can’t see them; they are just big.

LRH: Do you get a visio?

PC: Mary Dodd. This was a long time before Mike. There are candles, and she was very still. Gee! Huh!

LRH: Who cautioned you not to cry? (pause) Let’s take a look at this coffin.

PC: (mutters) I don’t see the flowers. Mary is crying because her mother was dead.

LRH: What is she saying? Who tells her not to cry?

PC: I forget.

LRH: How do you feel?

PC: It makes me feel good.

LRH: Are you watching the coffin?

PC: Yes. (mutters)

LRH: All right. Let’s take a look at this

PC: Not the one I used to fight (mutters) . . . I am sure about it, but you could get to it (mutters) . . .

LRH: All the time. Sure.

PC: Not all the time.

LRH: How old are you?

PC: Twelve.

LRH: What happened to you? Yes or no: death? accident? What happened?

PC: It was something both pleasant and scary. Do you have to . . . ?

LRH: Sex?

PC: Exactly.

LRH: You sure made me work hard for it!

PC: The auditor never ran into it.

LRH: Come to present time.

PC: Thirty-six. Except that the first was twelve.

LRH: Tell me on Straightwire: Did this girl tell you not to tell anybody?

PC: No. I was alone. You know — self-abuse is bad.

LRH: Who told you?

PC: She did. She didn’t catch me.

LRH: All right. Another incident at twelve.

PC: More of the same.

LRH: This we mustn’t know?

PC: That is apparently hell to talk about.

LRH: Sure. Let's scare up the holder. When I count from one to five, you’ll get a flash on a holder. One-two-three-four-five (snap!).

PC: No.

LRH: Holder — one-two-three-four-five (snap!).

PC: No.

LRH: Go over the word “No.”

PC: I don’t know a particular holder but “No.”

LRH: (“No” is not a holder; it is a denyer.) Go over it again.

PC: No. No. No. No.” The “no” applies to this, you understand ?

LRH: Go over “I won’t tell you.”

PC: I can’t tell you. I can’t tell you because there are other people involved.

LRH: Let’s go over it again. Go over “I can’t tell you.”

PC: I can’t do it.

LRH: Let’s go over it again.

PC: I can’t tell you

LRH: (There is a denyer here.)

PC: I can’t tell you The trouble is you see

LRH: Are you telling me “I can’t tell you” or are you running repeater technique?

PC: No, no. “I can’t tell you. “ “You’ve got to tell me.”

LRH: “You have got to tell me.”

PC: No, I am not going — ”You have got to tell me.” Yes, it is my mother. Way back.

“You have got to tell me. You have got to tell Mommy everything, so she can survive.” (softly) All kinds of things, I would guess . . .

LRH: You remember?

PC: Yes.

LRH: Now,you used to tell her

PC: No, no! I can’t tell! I wouldn’t dare have said such a thing. I wouldn’t have dared; don’t you understand ?

LRH: Huh? You wouldn’t have dared. Where your mother is saying

PC: “You tell Mommy . . .”

LRH: Get the moment your father says “You have got to tell me.”

PC: He wasn’t so interested. He didn’t care.

LRH: But your mother

PC: Tell Mommy everything. You have got to tell Mommy everything.” Yes! Yes!

LRH: How old are you?

PC: Twelve.

LRH: Come on up to the time. The file clerk will give us the first phrase. One-two-three-four-five (snaps).

PC: Shall I tell them? This is about masturbation — sex.

LRH: There isn’t a holder on the subject? (pause) “If you do that you will go crazy”?

PC: Who said I wasn’t crazy? “Shall I tell them?” And I said, “No. This is fun. I don’t know why they have to know about it.”

LRH: (He is running the “Mama” chain of) In other words, we have

PC: See, I don’t know.

LRH: You wouldn’t tell me?

PC: Well, it says, “Shall I tell them ? “And it says, “No.”

LRH: What’s your age?

PC: Twelve.

LRH: Days, weeks, months?

PC: Days. Nuts!

LRH: (Twelve days.) Postpartum?

PC: Yes.

LRH: Postconception?

PC: Yes.

LRH: Which one?

PC: I don’t know what I am answering to. It would have to be . . .

LRH: Are you in an automobile?

PC: No. No. “I don’t dare tell.”

LRH: “I don’t dare tell”?

PC: Yes. “No one has to know. No one has to know.”

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “No one has to know.”

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “No one has to know.”

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “No one has to know.”

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “No one has to know.”

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “No one has to know.”

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “No one has to know.”

LRH: Next phrase.

PC: “I will ask — shall I ask them?”

LRH: These are consecutive phrases?

PC: No. So they don’t know. Well, this is in my mind. I came to a conclusion as a result of this.

LRH: All right. Let’s do a little Straightwire. You remember running your father’s death?

PC: Yes.

LRH: Let’s return to the moment your father died. The first moment you saw him dying.

PC: He was very ill. I saw him just a few hours before he died.

LRH: All right. What’s being said there at that time?

PC: I don’t understand it — “He has got a fever.”

LRH: Go over it again. Is your mother there?

PC: No, not at the time. The doctor is saying . . .

LRH: Go to the first moment you get word he is dead. The first instant.

PC: (pause)

LRH: (This is a terrific secrecy case. Dub-in; control; stuck on track.)
PC: I get one answer one time and another, another time. I don’t even know who is saying it.

LRH: What are they saying?

PC: “He is dead.”

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: “He is dead. He is dead. He is dead. He is dead. He is dead.”

LRH: You answer the phone?

PC: I don’t — whew! It is sort of mixed up at the hospital. I am holding his hand. It is paralysed. I ought to know him. (mutters) . . . but I know he is my father. (sighs)

LRH: Huh?

PC: It isn’t very interesting. (softly) He can’t speak to me. He tries. He can’t say anything.

(grief hits) I can’t do it. I can’t do a thing, see?

LRH: And what occurs? Is the nurse there?

PC: Yes.

LRH: What does she say?

PC: First he gets chills and then fever, “ she says. He looks at me. He tries to say something. Not a sound comes out. Sort of an awful . . .

LRH: Who is there?

PC: The nurse; she is watching. She’s holding a bottle. He is light on the bed. Hands still.

She is standing there. I get up. (crying)

LRH: Was he big?

PC: He was big.

LRH: Does he look so big now?

PC: No; he looks shrunk.

LRH: What is he trying to say to you?

PC: He is trying to . . .

LRH: How far does he get?

PC: Just the first — (sighs) as if he were trying to say Terry and can’t say it. (sighs) Pretty sick.

LRH: How do you see him?

PC: He is propped up. Lifts up his legs like that. He never would admit his leg was paralyzed. He never would say it was paralysed.

LRH: Did you feel badly?

PC: But I was glad, too.

LRH: Who told you?

PC: I keep thinking . . .

LRH: Let’s go over the words “He is dead.”

PC: He is dead. He is dead. He is dead.”

LRH: Go over it again.

PC: He is dead. He is dead.” (clenching fists)

LRH: Who is saying it to you?

PC: (pause; hands quieter)

LRH: Who is saying it to you? Does your brother say it? (pause) Who is the first person you see crying?

PC: “You know, I never saw anybody cry about it. Nobody but me. I was the only one. I feel very ashamed. Nobody else is crying. Why should I cry? (sighs)

LRH: How does he look?

PC: They have him all dressed up . . .

LRH: Are you inside yourself?

PC: shaved off his mustache.

LRH: Inside yourself?

PC: Yes.

LRH: Who is the first one that speaks to you after you see — who is the first one that speaks?

(pause) The words

PC: (murmurs)

LRH: You see them? (pause) What are they saying? (pause) How does the church sound?

(pause) What are they saying?

PC: Just shuffling of feet, the singing — family, close friends, coffin. (pointing)

LRH: Got a headache?

PC: (shakes his head)

LRH: Who died before you were born?

PC: My mother’s oldest sister.

LRH: She died while you were on the way?

PC: No, before. She was very, very ill. She was very, very ill.

LRH: Go over that.

PC: She used to tell me about it.

LRH: What did she say to you? (Coffin case. Prenatal contains a death.)

PC: (murmurs)

LRH: Let’s go over it again.

PC: (silent)

LRH: Yes or no: died before you were bom?

PC: Age of twenty. My mother was thirty-four when I was born.

LRH: What was the difference of age between these two?

PC: My mother was (mutters) . . . child.

LRH: Who else died? (pause) When did your mother’s grandparents die?

PC: No can remember.

LRH: When did they die? Her grandparents.

PC: “You said her great-grandparents.

LRH: I meant her grandparents.

PC: He died — well, she liked to talk about her father and mother and elder sister and brother.

LRH: Her brother died?

PC: No. Her elder sister.

LRH: Okay.

PC: I am trying to think what her grandparents were like. We used to go visiting there. It must have been pretty . . .

LRH: Come up to present time.

PC: “You are Mr. Hubbard.

LRH: How old are you?

PC: Thirty-six.

LRH: What’s your age?

PC: Thirty-six.

LRH: Give me a number.

PC: Twelve.

LRH: Give me this again. Who is dead?

PC: I dreamed once I was dead. I got out of there quick!

LRH: You dreamed you were dead? Did anybody say you were like

PC: They said, “You will never be handsome.”

LRH: Okay. Come to present time. All the way. (pause) Go back to the last time you went swimming. Last time you went swimming.

PC: Last time?

LRH: Feel it. Feel the water.

PC: Makes your nose all stopped up.

LRH: Taste it. Taste it real good. Sound of the water. (pause) Come up to present time. Present time.

PC: All right.

LRH: How old are you?

PC: Thirty-six.

LRH: What’s your age? Present time.

PC: Yes.

LRH: Five-four-three-two-one! Canceled.

PC: The book says you will be alert.

I am sorry I wasn’t more spectacular, but we did get data. This is rather typical of a stuck-on-the-track case. Alternate Straightwire and reverie. I think we would have gotten the incident if we had gone on. Somehow his emotion is locked on the track, at twelve years or twelve days.